aihua on Nostr: #damus #nostr #aihua #thinking 7. ...
#damus
#nostr
#aihua
#thinking
7. 反对在nostr上搞审查的人的理由，是要保证抗审查的纯粹性，既然我们本身是反审查的，怎么能自己搞一套呢？这不是打自己的脸吗？
其实这里涉及到一个定义问题，nostr反对的是审查，还是反对平台独裁的、不可选的、黑盒的审查？我认为是后者。
从定义出发，如果我们真的要反对审查本身，客户端提供的block功能是不是审查？这个要不要关掉？既然这个合理，我通过把用户的黑名单整合到一起形成的共享黑名单是否合理呢？那么我通过完全由用户行为定义的关注链审查是否可以呢？
还有一个问题在于，资源是有限的，relay不是地里长出来的，而是运营者用真金白银换的。
反审查者试图把这些资源强制开放给spam，是否是慷他人之慨？
试图强迫新的内容发布者去和机器人比手速，去搞pow在global刷存在感，是否是另一种专制？
The reason for those who oppose censorship on nostr is to ensure the purity of anti-censorship. Since we are anti-censorship, how can we do it ourselves? Isn't this slapping yourself in the face?
In fact, there is a problem of definition involved here. Is Nostr against censorship, or is it against platform dictatorship, non-optional, black-box censorship? I think it's the latter.
Starting from the definition, if we really want to object to the censorship itself, is the block function provided by the client censorship? Do you want to turn this off? Since this is reasonable, is the shared blacklist I formed by integrating the user's blacklist together reasonable? So can I pass the follow-up chain review completely defined by user behavior?
Another problem is that resources are limited, and relays do not grow out of the ground, but are exchanged by operators for real money. Are anti-censors being generous in trying to force open these resources to spam?
Is it another kind of tyranny to try to force new content publishers to compare their hand speed with robots and engage in pow to gain a sense of global presence?
#nostr
#aihua
#thinking
7. 反对在nostr上搞审查的人的理由，是要保证抗审查的纯粹性，既然我们本身是反审查的，怎么能自己搞一套呢？这不是打自己的脸吗？
其实这里涉及到一个定义问题，nostr反对的是审查，还是反对平台独裁的、不可选的、黑盒的审查？我认为是后者。
从定义出发，如果我们真的要反对审查本身，客户端提供的block功能是不是审查？这个要不要关掉？既然这个合理，我通过把用户的黑名单整合到一起形成的共享黑名单是否合理呢？那么我通过完全由用户行为定义的关注链审查是否可以呢？
还有一个问题在于，资源是有限的，relay不是地里长出来的，而是运营者用真金白银换的。
反审查者试图把这些资源强制开放给spam，是否是慷他人之慨？
试图强迫新的内容发布者去和机器人比手速，去搞pow在global刷存在感，是否是另一种专制？
The reason for those who oppose censorship on nostr is to ensure the purity of anti-censorship. Since we are anti-censorship, how can we do it ourselves? Isn't this slapping yourself in the face?
In fact, there is a problem of definition involved here. Is Nostr against censorship, or is it against platform dictatorship, non-optional, black-box censorship? I think it's the latter.
Starting from the definition, if we really want to object to the censorship itself, is the block function provided by the client censorship? Do you want to turn this off? Since this is reasonable, is the shared blacklist I formed by integrating the user's blacklist together reasonable? So can I pass the follow-up chain review completely defined by user behavior?
Another problem is that resources are limited, and relays do not grow out of the ground, but are exchanged by operators for real money. Are anti-censors being generous in trying to force open these resources to spam?
Is it another kind of tyranny to try to force new content publishers to compare their hand speed with robots and engage in pow to gain a sense of global presence?