Steve Lee [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2023-05-10 🗒️ Summary of this message: The process of ...
📅 Original date posted:2023-05-10
🗒️ Summary of this message: The process of blocking maintainers on GitHub PRs is being discussed, with concerns raised about potentially inconsistent reasons for blocking proposed maintainers.
📝 Original message:Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one
agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and
give a reason for Russ as well.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:55 AM Michael Folkson <
michaelfolkson at protonmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve
>
> > Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project
> contributors) can express their view in this PR?
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>
> Nope. The extent to which the rationale for blocking Vasil as a maintainer
> applies or doesn't apply to ryanofsky (or future potential maintainers)
> isn't discussed. From now on the precedent is proposed maintainers can be
> blocked for unknown and/or potentially inconsistent reasons by the existing
> maintainers.
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Folkson
> Email: michaelfolkson at protonmail.com
> GPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0F
>
> Learn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 03:44, Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors)
> can express their view in this PR?
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03 AM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>>> > Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will
>>> > decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.
>>>
>>> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current
>>> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a
>>> new board member.
>>>
>>
>> Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of
>> independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The
>> github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also
>> a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the
>> bitcoin protocol in general:
>> https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/
>> https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd
>>
>> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427
>>
>> - Bryan
>> https://twitter.com/kanzure
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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🗒️ Summary of this message: The process of blocking maintainers on GitHub PRs is being discussed, with concerns raised about potentially inconsistent reasons for blocking proposed maintainers.
📝 Original message:Blocking Vasil was discussed on a similar GitHub PR. Whether or not one
agrees or disagrees, the same process is being used. Anyone can NACK and
give a reason for Russ as well.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:55 AM Michael Folkson <
michaelfolkson at protonmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve
>
> > Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project
> contributors) can express their view in this PR?
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>
> Nope. The extent to which the rationale for blocking Vasil as a maintainer
> applies or doesn't apply to ryanofsky (or future potential maintainers)
> isn't discussed. From now on the precedent is proposed maintainers can be
> blocked for unknown and/or potentially inconsistent reasons by the existing
> maintainers.
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Folkson
> Email: michaelfolkson at protonmail.com
> GPG: A2CF5D71603C92010659818D2A75D601B23FEE0F
>
> Learn about Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/@portofbitcoin
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, May 10th, 2023 at 03:44, Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors)
> can express their view in this PR?
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03 AM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>>> > Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will
>>> > decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.
>>>
>>> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current
>>> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a
>>> new board member.
>>>
>>
>> Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of
>> independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The
>> github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also
>> a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the
>> bitcoin protocol in general:
>> https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/
>> https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd
>>
>> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427
>>
>> - Bryan
>> https://twitter.com/kanzure
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>
>
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