Marakesh 𓅦 on Nostr: (I responded to you yesterday but I just now saw that it didn't go through, ...
(I responded to you yesterday but I just now saw that it didn't go through, apparently. My Internet connection went offline when I wrote it, but even still, I thought Amethyst would save it as a draft 😕)
I think Haller would say that individual liberties and voluntary association were previously and would be better protected under a natural, private law society than under the modern democratic states we live under today as a result of the Enlightenment, so-called.
Here is an excerpt from a speech by Hans-Hermann Hoppe (from which I first learned about Haller) that I think gives an excellent summary of Haller's views:
"To begin with, it is noted that there exists no record whatsoever that anything resembling a contract as imagined by social contract theorists has ever been concluded anywhere. And Haller immediately cuts to the heart of the matter as to why this is so and why any such contract is inconceivable. In the state of nature, he writes (p. 322), everyone, for his protection and security, could rely on his own powers and means of self-defense or he could choose someone more powerful than himself, and equipped with more or better means of protection, and attach himself at mutually agreed upon terms to such a person as his vassal or servant; and he could terminate and leave any such association and return to defensive self-sufficiency or attach himself to another presumably better protector. Why, then, Haller wonders, would anyone consider it an improvement, if he could no longer choose his own protector and mode of protection but such a decision were made instead by others, i.e. “the people?” How is that supposed to be freedom?!"
https://www.hanshoppe.com/2021/09/the-idea-of-a-private-law-society-the-case-of-karl-ludwig-von-haller-pfs-2021/#:~:text=To%20begin%20with,to%20be%20freedom%3F!
I think Haller would say that individual liberties and voluntary association were previously and would be better protected under a natural, private law society than under the modern democratic states we live under today as a result of the Enlightenment, so-called.
Here is an excerpt from a speech by Hans-Hermann Hoppe (from which I first learned about Haller) that I think gives an excellent summary of Haller's views:
"To begin with, it is noted that there exists no record whatsoever that anything resembling a contract as imagined by social contract theorists has ever been concluded anywhere. And Haller immediately cuts to the heart of the matter as to why this is so and why any such contract is inconceivable. In the state of nature, he writes (p. 322), everyone, for his protection and security, could rely on his own powers and means of self-defense or he could choose someone more powerful than himself, and equipped with more or better means of protection, and attach himself at mutually agreed upon terms to such a person as his vassal or servant; and he could terminate and leave any such association and return to defensive self-sufficiency or attach himself to another presumably better protector. Why, then, Haller wonders, would anyone consider it an improvement, if he could no longer choose his own protector and mode of protection but such a decision were made instead by others, i.e. “the people?” How is that supposed to be freedom?!"
https://www.hanshoppe.com/2021/09/the-idea-of-a-private-law-society-the-case-of-karl-ludwig-von-haller-pfs-2021/#:~:text=To%20begin%20with,to%20be%20freedom%3F!