Rusty Corgi on Nostr: It's basically a meme at this point how often CSD vs SSD arguments pop up on the ...
It's basically a meme at this point how often CSD vs SSD arguments pop up on the Wayland issue tracker 
GNOME still wants Wayland to be an entirely CSD-based standards, while everyone else is content with having it allow for both, hence why GNOME is still stubbornly refusing to adopt the [xdg-decoration spec](https://wayland.app/protocols/xdg-decoration-unstable-v1 ).
I personally really don't think applications should be unified across desktops. If every desktop looked the same with applications all designed the same, it'd destroy a lot of what makes Linux interesting to use. That and I tend to think most Linux applications look terrible.
I know it's a spicy hot take, but I absolutely detest menu bars and I actually like when applications have whitespace between elements. If we didn't have different platforms with different interface guidelines, I feel like we'd all be on the same desktop with the same 1990's Windows design sensibilities. 
People can hate on how disjointed LibAdwaita looks compared to everything else, but LibAdwaita looks super nice.
From there, it's kind of a trade-off of where you want your application windows to look disjointed. Do you want the entire window to look out of place, or just the window within the window decoration? I'd personally rather the entire window look out of place because then you can have a bunch of eclectic looking application windows, as opposed to a bunch of the same frame with a disjointed mess inside of them. Ideally I'd get rid of window controls altogether and have the shell handle closing and tiling the applications, similar to how you don't have a close button on a smartphone application, but idk how you'd do that.
GNOME still wants Wayland to be an entirely CSD-based standards, while everyone else is content with having it allow for both, hence why GNOME is still stubbornly refusing to adopt the [xdg-decoration spec](https://wayland.app/protocols/xdg-decoration-unstable-v1 ).I personally really don't think applications should be unified across desktops. If every desktop looked the same with applications all designed the same, it'd destroy a lot of what makes Linux interesting to use. That and I tend to think most Linux applications look terrible.
I know it's a spicy hot take, but I absolutely detest menu bars and I actually like when applications have whitespace between elements. If we didn't have different platforms with different interface guidelines, I feel like we'd all be on the same desktop with the same 1990's Windows design sensibilities. People can hate on how disjointed LibAdwaita looks compared to everything else, but LibAdwaita looks super nice.From there, it's kind of a trade-off of where you want your application windows to look disjointed. Do you want the entire window to look out of place, or just the window within the window decoration? I'd personally rather the entire window look out of place because then you can have a bunch of eclectic looking application windows, as opposed to a bunch of the same frame with a disjointed mess inside of them. Ideally I'd get rid of window controls altogether and have the shell handle closing and tiling the applications, similar to how you don't have a close button on a smartphone application, but idk how you'd do that.