maegrowthteacher on Nostr: Imagine you are heavily involved in a project; you believe so much in its goals and ...
Imagine you are heavily involved in a project; you believe so much in its goals and its value — you treat it like your baby! And then people come along, the users, who will give their feedback, whether constructive or not. It must be frustrating. To some degree, it may appear as a personal attack to you as the creator of the app. So I understand where this comment is coming from.
However, if you categorise people as "external," then what does that mean? If you say "petty bugs" because some users care about the "search" functionality, does that make their feedback less important?
We are the algo: this is one of Nostr's marketing pitches, and to be honest, it got me sold on joining Nostr. In the absence of algo like centralised social media, the ability to search is important to me and to some other users. Content searchability is important; speed is important, etc.
Of course, some users will have a myriad of lists of what they want, and I know some can be very silly. Nonetheless, they believe it is important. My point is that what is seemingly "petty bugs" to developers may be critical to users' experience.
I understand that some feedback is not constructive and you cannot act on it (e.g., insulting feedback like "Nostr is shite" — you cannot really act on this feedback!). However, comments like the thread below: are we endangering ourselves by creating division and antagonising those who provide feedback about Nostr?
Could we not weed out the constructive feedback, learn from it, and perhaps educate the users? If we say that Nostr is everyone's problem, then we have not listened intently because if you did, you would not say this comment. Why? There are people who truly care about Nostr but are completely lost as to where to give feedback, what is in the works, or what is a priority.
I have seen so many threads about Nostr's challenges. Yes, some of them are not constructive, but most are constructive. The question is: how do we know that those messages and feedback have been received, seen, or acted upon?
Maybe I am too much of a noob in this community because I do not know which ones are being prioritised or worked on. Education, communication, and orientation are critical. We all agree on this. But if we call feedback "petty" for what is seemingly important to other users, then we are alienating those prospective users and could deter them from giving valuable feedback.
I took my time out of my day to write this because I care, and honestly, to see this comment from fiatjaf (nprofile…c9z9), as the so-called founding creator of Nostr, is very disappointing. If we want to grow Nostr, I would strongly recommend that we start listening and learning to identify helpful feedback that is actionable versus non-constructive.
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However, if you categorise people as "external," then what does that mean? If you say "petty bugs" because some users care about the "search" functionality, does that make their feedback less important?
We are the algo: this is one of Nostr's marketing pitches, and to be honest, it got me sold on joining Nostr. In the absence of algo like centralised social media, the ability to search is important to me and to some other users. Content searchability is important; speed is important, etc.
Of course, some users will have a myriad of lists of what they want, and I know some can be very silly. Nonetheless, they believe it is important. My point is that what is seemingly "petty bugs" to developers may be critical to users' experience.
I understand that some feedback is not constructive and you cannot act on it (e.g., insulting feedback like "Nostr is shite" — you cannot really act on this feedback!). However, comments like the thread below: are we endangering ourselves by creating division and antagonising those who provide feedback about Nostr?
Could we not weed out the constructive feedback, learn from it, and perhaps educate the users? If we say that Nostr is everyone's problem, then we have not listened intently because if you did, you would not say this comment. Why? There are people who truly care about Nostr but are completely lost as to where to give feedback, what is in the works, or what is a priority.
I have seen so many threads about Nostr's challenges. Yes, some of them are not constructive, but most are constructive. The question is: how do we know that those messages and feedback have been received, seen, or acted upon?
Maybe I am too much of a noob in this community because I do not know which ones are being prioritised or worked on. Education, communication, and orientation are critical. We all agree on this. But if we call feedback "petty" for what is seemingly important to other users, then we are alienating those prospective users and could deter them from giving valuable feedback.
I took my time out of my day to write this because I care, and honestly, to see this comment from fiatjaf (nprofile…c9z9), as the so-called founding creator of Nostr, is very disappointing. If we want to grow Nostr, I would strongly recommend that we start listening and learning to identify helpful feedback that is actionable versus non-constructive.
Rabble (nprofile…02dz) #plebchain #grownostr #nostriches #asknostr
quoting nevent1q…2nj9It's weird to see external people that are aligned with Nostr's goals and even the overall design to complain about petty bugs or small details -- well, even big issues.
"Oh, I like the idea of Nostr, but it's so bad because I tried a random client and the search button doesn't work, therefore I will assert that Nostr is retarded and will never succeed."
The thing is: to whom are you complaining? Nostr isn't an organization trying to sell you anything, and if you are aligned with the goals then that supposed "Nostr problem" is also your problem so start trying to solve it. Or maybe you have a better alternative?, otherwise the tone of the complaint doesn't make sense.